Is this even an episode? In this 5-minute conversation, (with Simon recording from a cupboard in deep, dark Suffolk – so please excuse the audio), John and Simon talk about what can happen to best-laid plans…..when designing the twelve days of Xmas. 

In the spirit of experimenting quickly, they then move on and go straight to what’s exciting about 2023 – which is LOADS. 

We hope you enjoy the show AND we hope you join us for another year of a not-so-serious business podcast. And as The Occupational Philosophers always say: stay curious, make stuff, play more, have fun and date life. 

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